I don't recall any hush-hush, whisper-whisper going on.

I really didn't believe that (story). Amway people are pushy about Amway. When they didn't push it, I figured they were probably up to something else.

In the cab business, technically that might've been a little bit light on the tip but when you're getting a $185 cash trip, when they only throw in another $15, you're not going to think anything bad. You're going to say you appreciate it and you're going to go on your way.

They paid me for the trip, so I had no outward way to think they were bad people.

You know, Amway people are all about Amway, and when they didn't -- when they didn't try any conversation further about it, that's when I pretty much thought, well, they're not with Amway.

You know, I didn't feel uncomfortable. I'd been paid. Really, my guard was really down.